Motivating IT people to change, talking to developers

You know how things go.

Somedays, all of the sudden, it’s 4:17 and you have your last meeting of the day at 4:30, and it’s also your daughter’s third birthday, so you need to get to that. And while you managed to eat a really great sandwich, it also, turns out no one’s walked the dog all day!

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Thankfully, I also had the pleasure of talking with Ben today about two topics I’ve been thinking a lot about this week: how can infrastructure and developers get over their acrimonious history and start talking with each more, and, some thoughts on the Spring Framework. I’m so harried that I don’t actually remember what those second thoughts were! But they were fun to talk about.

Check them out in this video:

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Tomorrow should be the episode with just pictures. I have several fun ones saved up.

See y’all next time!