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</p> <p>There’s a new kubernetes, Oracle lay-offs, Zoom.US, and the problem with mainframe complainers.</p> <p><a href="https://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/172" target="_blank">Also see full show notes.</a></p> <p><!-- Tags: Export, export20200702, IFTTT, Software Defined Talk, Podcasts, SDT --><br /> <!-- Imported by Diane (Claudmin) on 2026-03-22 -->
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