Coté Show: North-bound Enterprise Architecture with Matt Walburn – that business/IT alignment dance

Further on the quest to figure out what a “cloud-native enterprise architect” is:

What’s the “business” side of enterprise architecture? And how does EA’ing start mapping to DevOps, cloud-native, and all the new stuff? In part one of this discussion, I talk with Matt Walburn about how EA’s fit into The Business.

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Coté Show: Biz Dev, Defining an application, the atheist eagle scout, with JJ Asghar

Another interview, mostly on cloud and other dorky topics:

Having worked in cloud since before cloud, JJ and I talk about what companies are using various cloud things for. We also discuss the conceptual history of cloud, and what exactly he does as a “business development” person at Chef.

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Reactive applications, with Josh Long – Coté Show #18

While in San Francisco for a Pivotal meeting, I recorded an episode with Josh Long. We talk about what reactive programming is and why you’d use it. Also, dish towels. Also, check out the livestream of this if you’re into video.

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Building a cloud in 30 minutes, metrics are a distraction, & other tales of transformation at SpringOne Platform – Lords of Computing #14

“I get to see your face during this podcast,” Matt says as we start talking about SpringOne Platform. Both of us were there and we recap Matt’s talk on managing 10 Pivotal Cloud Foundry instances, namely, how they figured out using a Concourse pipeline to automate much of that management. We discuss “how to do the transformation” talks we liked, like the Citi talk.

In addition to some other random digital transformation topics, we also discuss how HR policies are struggling to change with things like pair programming and DevOps.

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Open source and developers at Dell and the changing nature of OSS, & Loco Moco, with Barton George – Lords of Computing Podcast #13

I’ve had a theory that the hard-line philosophy of open source has softened in recent times. Rather than thinking closed source is to be avoided at all costs, I think most developer types are a lot more willing to accept closed source bits mixed in with open source bits. That is, open core has “won.” I discuss this topic with my long time pal, Barton George, while at SpringOne Platform, plus the work he’s doing in the developer and OSS worlds at Dell.

We also talk about Hawaiian food.

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Introducing cloud at Express Scripts, with Brian Gregory – Lords of Computing #12


Introducing cloud in a large enterprise can be challenge, and the technology is usually the least of your worries. Matt and I talk with Brian Gregory of Express Scripts who’s been working on transforming Express Scripts to a more cloud native approach to IT and tell us some the history and some of the tactics that he and team have been working through.

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011 How do we do things we would never, ordinarily do? – Lords of Computing Podcast


Matt and I talk about lessons learned from almost a year of helping transform IT at Allstate. When it comes to scaling up agile and cloud-think the real challenges are in functions other than development, like budgeting, planning, training, hiring, and how the overall IT department is organized. We discuss those topics – esp. budgeting! – and also how to set one’s personal expectations about going on the transformation journey. Then we discuss an upcoming column on mine in The Register on the benefits of small batches thinking.

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  • After a year, the question becomes “can it scale?”
  • How do we do: Budgeting, training, hiring, how do we organize teams
  • We only plan with good information, not bad information.
  • You need to establish an overall vision, but avoid being too specific on tactics. For example, with a claim application, we know the general product, the vertical, the line of business we have roughly an idea of what claims are, who the customer is, and what that experience is like. Delivering a better experience for claims, what that feels like, and how do we measure it – these things we don’t know perfectly up-front, so we have lots of discipline around iterating and experimenting to deliver good product.
  • How budgeting changes in this small batches approach.
  • With a lot of this, you can’t talk someone into doing these things up-front. They have to experience it first hand: you have to walk them through it.
  • “Sometimes ‘nothing’ is a big win.”
  • Coté’s DevOps columns at The Register.
  • Not mentioned, but good thinking to be had in Larman’s Law
  • Matt Curry: @mattjcurry
  • Coté: @cote,

Doing the DevOps at National Instruments and BazaarVoice, talking with Ernest Mueller – Lords of Computing#10


Ernest Mueller has helped introduce DevOps in several organizations and has been talking about those stories at two companies he’s worked for, National Instruments and BazaarVoice. Matt and Coté hear these stories (mostly at National Instruments) and we discuss how Ernest and others helped transform these companies to the new way.

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The life of microservices in the F500 – Lords of Computing Podcast


You don’t hear too many stories about microservices in “normal” companies. In this episode, I talk with Nate Foreman about microservices-driven work he’s been doing with a large enterprise recently. We discuss the goods and the bads of this approach and, overall, how it’s working out. It’s a good discussion of how all the usual “cloud native” concept actually play out in the real world.

(As you can guess, it’s not actually an “action figure” company, we just used that example to mask the actual company.)

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