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  1. Highly enjoyable episode, folks. But when it comes to the great refactoring/new stuff debate, surely Charles and his colleagues need only ask themselves one question: what would The Beez do? End of discussion.

    Am I alone in not knowing what Flex/Apollo is, despite my best attempts to find out? I mean, I’ve read a whole bunch of articles on it, I’ve followed the blog chatter on it (including Bruce Eckel’s now infamous article at Artima). I know Flex has something to do with Flash, Actionscript (er, I think), browsers, Ajaxy things, and a replacement for applets. And Apollo has something to do with the desktop.

    I’ve even gone to some Adobe websites and looked at tutorials, but they looked a bit long winded and Enterprisey. I’d love to have an opinion on whether it should be open source or not – but I still have no idea what the fuck is going on.

  2. Shut the fuck up Donny.

    >>Am I alone in not knowing what Flex/Apollo is>but I still have no idea what the fuck is going on.>And Apollo has something to do with the desktop

  3. [Am I alone in not knowing what Flex/Apollo is]

    You have no frame of reference here Donny. You’re like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know what’s happening.

    [but I still have no idea what the fuck is going on]

    What is going on Donny, is Java getting fucked in the ass.

    This is what happens when you bet the platform on giving developers a choice between using ten year old client server gui technology -and toy fucking browser programming named after a toilet cleaner. You are entering a world of pain Donny..

    First you get fucked by Adobe. Say what you like about stability on Linux -at least its a fucking markup based interface

    Then you get fucked by Microsoft. The man in the checked shirt Donny. A worthy fucking adversary.

    [And Apollo has something to do with the desktop]

    Have you even heard of Vietnam Donny? I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so Flash could push Java into #3 spot for desktop development.

    Fuck it Dude. Lets go bowling.

  4. “Walter”

    Your post pleased me too, especially your liberal mixing of quotes from JamesM and the Big Lebowski (no doubt cribbed from imdb).

    It will not have escaped your attention however that Cote doesn’t call Walter an asshole, he calls “Walter” an asshole (so no, he isn’t continuing the joke).

    This may not please you, but here *IMHO* is why he does.

    You obviously assume that JamesM is familiar with The Big Lebowski, that he knows who Walter and Donny are, gets the joke (such as it is) and therefore that he couldn’t *possibly* think that your post was a real reply to his -much less that anyone was telling him to fuck off.

    That is a lot of assumptions and isn’t helped by your inexplicable double posting, with an apparently truncated first version that more or less reads fuck off.

    But also, I bet that if *you* read your post, you would hear it being delivered by John Goodman -and delight at how terribly witty you were.

    But if you put yourself in the position of JamesM, -even if he had seen Lebowski, he might just hear some crazy fucker calling him Donny, quoting him directly and telling him to fuck off.

    This is a good example of why you are probably the sort of person who dislikes the term “social computing”, because you hear it as “dancing and chatting up girls computing”.

    One can only hope that you didn’t try to take your anonyminity as far as supplying a meaningless email address.

    Pete F

    btw: you are wrong about java too -things move slower than you think, and java will get back into the client game

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